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- Edsger Dijkstra
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Query Failedbloodnok
Monday, May 3, 2004

It will also be interesting to see the power requirements for ATI's next card. By the sound of things computers with a 6800 are going to be needing a 500W PSU, probably higher considering that those buying them are already running a hungry CPU and 4+ harddrives.
MesserFuerFrauSchmid
Sunday, May 2, 2004

Nope I don't think so, have a look at their GDC2k4 slides, there is a VS_2_b profile as well which is new (and definitly relates to ATI). Besides VS3.0 has output semantics which can only be matched with a PS3.0 counterpart
PaulT
Sunday, May 2, 2004

It appears that R42X will support VS 3.0, but not PS 3.0
MesserFuerFrauSchmid
Saturday, May 1, 2004

Well it is pretty obvious now. ATI R4xx no support for VS3.0 nor PS3.0 so no Shader model 3 support, pretty lame. But at least they seem to have upgraded the number of instructions to 0.5k and the number of registers as well
MesserFuerFrauSchmid
Tuesday, April 27, 2004

@NeoKenobi Nope not at all, but everything sounds like the ATI R42x is just a little upgrade to the R3xx marchitechture, maybe its double as fast but that's basically it this is not something I would jump on (especially if you consider that R3x is 1 1/2 year old). On the other hand I don't like the way NVs going either with two mulex power connectors its a no no no no on my side.
NeoKenobi
Tuesday, April 27, 2004

@MesserFuerFrauSchmid: hmmm... aren't you a little bit biased instead of Humus?
5x5
Tuesday, April 27, 2004

I think the NV40 and the R420 will be neck and neck in performance -- pending ATi's next generation, the R5xx, shows up.

Of course, when the R5xx <i>does</i> show up, nVidia will produce a newer version of their 6800 to compete with it, and things will subsequently begin to be very much akin to how they were with the battle between nVidia's 5950 Ultra and ATi's 9800 Pro.
Anonymous
Monday, April 26, 2004

As long as there are no extensions like:

EXT_Play_Piano or
EXT_Cook_Coffee

etc

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